I am hearing rumors about amnesty plans

A baby born to diplomats, who are here legally, is not a US citizen. Yet a baby born to an illegal or visitor is? The Constitution is clear, an obscure one off targeted ruling is what has been misinterpreted and then never challenged for additional clarification. There hasn't even been a case where parents renouncing citizenship as an issue has been brought to the Supreme Court. This has never been a big issue because numbers were low, but now it's become an issue that will brought to the Court.

This is, of course, distinguishable. A diplomat is here specifically still under the jurisdiction of the country he/she is representing in an official capacity. They are excluded from being subject to US laws while acting in their official capacity, absent some very rare exceptions. An illegal is subject to US laws while present.
 
If it doesn't matter if he has the tattoos or not, then why did Trump keep mentioning it as evidence that he was MS 13 and to support his deportation?

I'm arguing basic competency and common sense. I'm arguing to see if you are wholly brainwashed into the cult, or if you have retained some ties to the real world.

It's very simple ... yet you've been avoiding it ... Is the "MS 13" written out on that photo a real tattoo, or something superimposed onto the photo?
Who cares? There's gotta be someone better than this thug from Maryland that you can champion, no??
 
Awe, look at you with your attempts and prioritization of semantics instead of substance. From your post you know the executive order stands, especially with no case imminent to challenge it before that date. So, if it makes you feel better to think the minor delay was a victory, I will allow it. I'm magnanimous that way.

What the actual freak? I stated that, right now, a child born to an illegal alien in the United States would be a US citizen. You said they would not be.

I was correct. Substantively.

Your response? Claiming I'm attempting to utilize semantics.

You're messed in the head. It's gotten so crazy in Trump-follower land that truth and reality is now "semantics" when you can just invent any "reality" you want via lies and pretend it's the truth.
 
What the actual freak? I stated that, right now, a child born to an illegal alien in the United States would be a US citizen. You said they would not be.

I was correct. Substantively.

Your response? Claiming I'm attempting to utilize semantics.

You're messed in the head.

Show me that Maryland Dad had no hang tattoos on his knuckles.

Thanks
 
Ok, that would be a start. I have asked this question of liberals at least 10 times (I know that you are not a liberal) and they will never answer with any specifics. Their answer is essentially complete amnesty for everyone unless they are a convicted rapist or murderer - pretty much no compromise whatsoever.

Anyway, here would be my list of give and takes:
- Because I don't like to reward bad behavior by Democrats, anyone who crossed the border after Biden is deportable. After all, you can't honestly make the dreamer claim that you don't know any other country. Possible give some seasonal work permits in areas of need.
- Anyone who hopped the fence pre-Biden, partial citizenship, which would include not being deportable, but not being able to vote.
- Place tight limits on chain migration
- Give 'Dreamers' full citizenship
- Expand seasonal work permits
- Up the number of legal yearly immigrants to, say, 4 million immigrants total and include illegal border crossings in this number. So, if the Dems let border security lapse and let in 3 million illegals, then only 1 million legal immigrants that year
- No catch and release. Asylum claims must be made from their home country.
- Illegal immigrants not counted in the census to use in calculating representatives



DACA, in the name of compassion, was one of the most evil, yes I said evil, things done to children. It created a system where so many have been sexually abused, raped, sold into child labor, murdered, and/or ripped away from their parents so that Democrats can argue strawberries are now lower priced. That's without even getting into the American children who have had resources taken away from them and given to illegals.
 
This is, of course, distinguishable. A diplomat is here specifically still under the jurisdiction of the country he/she is representing in an official capacity. They are excluded from being subject to US laws while acting in their official capacity, absent some very rare exceptions. An illegal is subject to US laws while present.

None of the illegals have denounced their prior citizenship.
 
What the actual freak? I stated that, right now, a child born to an illegal alien in the United States would be a US citizen. You said they would not be.

I was correct. Substantively.

Your response? Claiming I'm attempting to utilize semantics.

You're messed in the head. It's gotten so crazy in Trump-follower land that truth and reality is now "semantics" when you can just invent any "reality" you want via lies and pretend it's the truth.

If it makes you feel better, sure
 
If it makes you feel better, sure

That just speaks to your character, or lack thereof.

Even when you're entirely and verifiably wrong, you still won't just admit your mistake ... you have to try to frame it as not being a real mistake, or belittle it in some other manner.

You're not worthwhile.
 
That just speaks to your character, or lack thereof.

Even when you're entirely and verifiably wrong, you still won't just admit your mistake ... you have to try to frame it as not being a real mistake, or belittle it in some other manner.

You're not worthwhile.

Please show Maryland Dad's knuckles... free of MS13 tattoos.
 
I posted pictures of him without "MS 13" explicitly written on his hands. Before and after the photo that included the superimposed "MS 13" non-tattoos on his knuckles.

Post the picture here of the ms13 tattoos that don't exist.

No one EVER said MS13 was explicitly on his hands you fucking moron.

My god you are one stupid ****.

It's very clear what his tattoos meant. You stupif ****.
 
Post the picture here of the ms13 tattoos that don't exist.

No one EVER said MS13 was explicitly on his hands you fucking moron.

My god you are one stupid ****.

It's very clear what his tattoos meant. You stupif ****.

Already posted the article with the links to the photos. If you can't figure out how to view them, that's your problem.

And, YES, at least someone did claim that ... Trump did. And you support him via your continued stupidity in pestering me on this point.

"You stupif ****" ... bahahahahaha. Thanks for that.

 
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That just speaks to your character, or lack thereof.

Even when you're entirely and verifiably wrong, you still won't just admit your mistake ... you have to try to frame it as not being a real mistake, or belittle it in some other manner.

You're not worthwhile.

Oh Laffy, I've been meaning to welcome you back. Hopefully you can keep up this ruse and don't debase your current nic again like the previous one. It's shameful what you did to that and your previously respectable reputation. Anyways, reread my posts very carefully. Good luck keeping with your new name. I'm rooting for you to maintain a semblance of decorum.
 
Oh Laffy, I've been meaning to welcome you back. Hopefully you can keep up this ruse and don't debase your current nic again like the previous one. It's shameful what you did to that and your previously respectable reputation. Anyways, reread my posts very carefully. Good luck keeping with your new name. I'm rooting for you to maintain a semblance of decorum.

And now you've resorted to this.

How about instead of the tact you've chosen up until this point, you attempt to be a man. Even if you're not capable, maybe you can fake it until you make it.
 
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