Air India Crash probe

[PAstr]

The initial findings from he plane’s recorders may be released this Friday. Some reports suggest that based on these recordings, investigators are looking at the position of the fuel control switches. These would normally be in the “run” position, but can be selected to “cutoff”.

 

[interrobang]

This has looked like pilot/maintenance error from the minute indian officials got real quiet on sharing info.

 

[Barry]

The initial findings from he plane’s recorders may be released this Friday. Some reports suggest that based on these recordings, investigators are looking at the position of the fuel control switches. These would normally be in the “run” position, but can be selected to “cutoff”.

Wouldn't you think there would be some pretty blaring warnings if you cutoff all fuel, no?

 

[LionDeNittany]

Wouldn't you think there would be some pretty blaring warnings if you cutoff all fuel, no?

Would also be tough to make it down the runway...

 

[PAstr]

Let’s say, for example, that they experienced a single engine failure after takeoff decision speed. Let’s further say that they began their memory items at a low altitude. One of those items is to close the fuel control switch on the failed engine. Finally, let’s say they inadvertently closed the fuel control switch on the operating engine. They’d now be left with two failed engines @ <400’ AGL.

The fact that the Indian government has not issued any statements makes me wonder if someone/something other than Boeing was at fault.

 

[PAstr]

Well, the initial report has been released and it seems to indicate that BOTH fuel control switches were moved to the “cutoff” position shortly after takeoff. It’s starting to sound like a German Wings or Air Egypt kind of event. The only difference being that there were two pilots on he flight deck at the time.

 

[PAstr]

Apparently, the First Officer was the flying pilot. Shortly after takeoff, a voice can be heard asking “ why did you cut them off?”…….the response was “I didn’t “. Both fuel control switches were moved back to the “run” position and the auto relight sequence began. One engine got back up to speed prior to impact, the other had liftoff but had yet to spool up. Without identifying the voices, it will be hard to know who moved the switches to cutoff.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Apparently, the First Officer was the flying pilot. Shortly after takeoff, a voice can be heard asking “ why did you cut them off?”…….the response was “I didn’t “. Both fuel control switches were moved back to the “run” position and the auto relight sequence began. One engine got back up to speed prior to impact, the other had liftoff but had yet to spool up. Without identifying the voices, it will be hard to know who moved the switches to cutoff.

Based on this it could be error or intentional.

Doubt if it was a suicide he would allow the captain to turn them back on.

 

[PAstr]

First of all, we don’t know which pilot turned them off. Secondly, we don’t know who cycled them back on. What we DO know is that the only reason to switch BOTH of these switches off and then IMMEDIATELY back on is a dual engine failure at cruise. These switches were selected to “cutoff “ and then there was a question about “why did you cut them off ?” Followed by “I didn’t do it” followed by both switches being returned to “run”.

 

[interrobang]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943808327039045948

 

[PAstr]

Yeah, that’s what I saw…….who did what and why becomes the question. The Indians haven’t released the audio nor have they addressed the question of the crew compliment. We know there was a Check Airman in the left sear. We know there was a low time (1100 hr pilot) in the right seat. Was there a relief pilot in the jump seat?

We also know that several people in the Crew Scheduling department have been fired.

Something is not adding up.

 

[LionDeNittany]

Yeah, that’s what I saw…….who did what and why becomes the question. The Indians haven’t released the audio nor have they addressed the question of the crew compliment. We know there was a Check Airman in the left sear. We know there was a low time (1100 hr pilot) in the right seat. Was there a relief pilot in the jump seat?

We also know that several people in the Crew Scheduling department have been fired.

Something is not adding up.

Don't expect it to ever add up, either.