Singleton makes appearance at combine.

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According to the Pittsburgh Tribune quoting his father.

Broke the fifth metatarsal and will have it surgically repaired Thursday.

Will attend combines but cannot participate in drills.
 
sr108 said:
Did Kaytron participate?
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According to Grok;

**Kaytron Allen**, the Penn State running back, participated in the **2026 NFL Scouting Combine** in Indianapolis (held late February to early March 2026).

### Key Details from the Combine:
- **Measurements**:
- Height: 5'11"
- Weight: 216 lbs
- Hand size: 9.5 inches
- Arm length: 29.5 inches

- **Testing**: He **opted out** of official athletic testing (e.g., 40-yard dash, vertical jump, broad jump, etc.). Many prospects skip formal timed drills at the Combine and save them for their school's Pro Day instead. His athleticism score was estimated at 70 (ranking 15th among RBs at the Combine).

- **On-Field Performance**: Allen did participate in positional drills and on-field workouts for running backs. Reports described him as looking **smooth**, quick, and comfortable—particularly in rushing drills and showing good vision/power. He avoided drops in receiving work despite limited college experience as a pass-catcher.

- **Grades and Impressions**:
- NFL.com gave him an overall prospect grade of **5.97** (average backup/special-teamer level), with a production score of 69 (8th among RBs) and total score ranking him 9th among RBs.
- CBS Sports graded his Combine performance a **B**, noting his powerful running style (double-digit TDs in three of four college seasons) and solid showing despite no testing.
- Media and Penn State accounts highlighted positive vibes, with comments like "looking smooth" and "someone is going to get an elite RB."

Overall, Allen (a productive, physical back coming off a strong 1,300+ yard season at Penn State) used the Combine more for interviews, measurements, and drill work than raw testing. His draft stock remains solid as a Day 2/3 prospect, and he'll likely showcase timed numbers at Penn State's Pro Day. For full profiles, check NFL.com's prospect page or recent Combine coverage from outlets like CBS Sports and Onward State.
 
The Spin Meister said:
According to Grok;

**Kaytron Allen**, the Penn State running back, participated in the **2026 NFL Scouting Combine** in Indianapolis (held late February to early March 2026).

### Key Details from the Combine:
- **Measurements**:
- Height: 5'11"
- Weight: 216 lbs
- Hand size: 9.5 inches
- Arm length: 29.5 inches

- **Testing**: He **opted out** of official athletic testing (e.g., 40-yard dash, vertical jump, broad jump, etc.). Many prospects skip formal timed drills at the Combine and save them for their school's Pro Day instead. His athleticism score was estimated at 70 (ranking 15th among RBs at the Combine).

- **On-Field Performance**: Allen did participate in positional drills and on-field workouts for running backs. Reports described him as looking **smooth**, quick, and comfortable—particularly in rushing drills and showing good vision/power. He avoided drops in receiving work despite limited college experience as a pass-catcher.

- **Grades and Impressions**:
- NFL.com gave him an overall prospect grade of **5.97** (average backup/special-teamer level), with a production score of 69 (8th among RBs) and total score ranking him 9th among RBs.
- CBS Sports graded his Combine performance a **B**, noting his powerful running style (double-digit TDs in three of four college seasons) and solid showing despite no testing.
- Media and Penn State accounts highlighted positive vibes, with comments like "looking smooth" and "someone is going to get an elite RB."

Overall, Allen (a productive, physical back coming off a strong 1,300+ yard season at Penn State) used the Combine more for interviews, measurements, and drill work than raw testing. His draft stock remains solid as a Day 2/3 prospect, and he'll likely showcase timed numbers at Penn State's Pro Day. For full profiles, check NFL.com's prospect page or recent Combine coverage from outlets like CBS Sports and Onward State.
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I read a blurb that said the athletes who were higher rated and from larger schools feel the combine is meaningless other than the general meet & greet with team executives. Why? Each of these schools will have a "pro day" where the scouts can be up close and personal with physical drills and it is also closer to the draft. They suggested the combine was much more improtant to marginal, third day players. IDK but seems to make sense
 
Sheriff Coffee said:
I read a blurb that said the athletes who were higher rated and from larger schools feel the combine is meaningless other than the general meet & greet with team executives. Why? Each of these schools will have a "pro day" where the scouts can be up close and personal with physical drills and it is also closer to the draft. They suggested the combine was much more improtant to marginal, third day players. IDK but seems to make sense
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Agreed. A review of maybe 50 randomly-selected plays on film and perhaps an interview with said candidate and coach(es) about attitude and work ethic should tell the story IMO.
 
Frank Lee said:
Agreed. A review of maybe 50 randomly-selected plays on film and perhaps an interview with said candidate and coach(es) about attitude and work ethic should tell the story IMO.
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Yep....and one of the things that makes it easier is that in the old days, these kids were dirt poor (most of them) and killed themselves to become skilled NFL players at great physical cost. Would the kid have the work ethic once his life changed with have several million in the bank? Today, most of the star college kids already have several million. So the monetary gap and consideration of what will happen when their life changes isn't there.
 
Sheriff Coffee said:
I read a blurb that said the athletes who were higher rated and from larger schools feel the combine is meaningless other than the general meet & greet with team executives. Why? Each of these schools will have a "pro day" where the scouts can be up close and personal with physical drills and it is also closer to the draft. They suggested the combine was much more improtant to marginal, third day players. IDK but seems to make sense
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My guess is top players like the extra time to heal the bruises of playing in bowl games/ playoffs in January and have a few more weeks to get in top shape.

None of us know what nagging injuries they had. Deep muscle bruising. Sore joints.

And during the season they aren’t concentrating on 40 yd times, elevation or long jumps. When a quarter second or four inches can change draft position and cost a couple hundred thousand dollars….
 
The Spin Meister said:
My guess is top players like the extra time to heal the bruises of playing in bowl games/ playoffs in January and have a few more weeks to get in top shape.

None of us know what nagging injuries they had. Deep muscle bruising. Sore joints.

And during the season they aren’t concentrating on 40 yd times, elevation or long jumps. When a quarter second or four inches can change draft position and cost a couple hundred thousand dollars….
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Agreed. Plus they can train for those things. Nobody cares about how high or broad you can jump in terms of numbers on a paper until the season is over. There is a lot of technique involved when you can prepare and are in shorts. It is a lot different then when a CB has ahold of your arms and the pass was late with too much zip. The longer you have to prepare for these things, the better.
 
Sheriff Coffee said:
Agreed. Plus they can train for those things. Nobody cares about how high or broad you can jump in terms of numbers on a paper until the season is over. There is a lot of technique involved when you can prepare and are in shorts. It is a lot different then when a CB has ahold of your arms and the pass was late with too much zip. The longer you have to prepare for these things, the better.
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My guess is that what you put on tape against quality opponents is the most important thing.
 
sr108 said:
My guess is that what you put on tape against quality opponents is the most important thing.
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One would think but the NFL gets caught up in measurables. They'll often value a workout warrior who tests off the charts. Often they think the kid was misused or poorly coached. Carson Schwesinger from UCLA is a good example last year. Kid was a walkon at UCLA and played for a poorly coached team. At 6-2 and 242, his measurables were really good. He was picked 33 overall and ended up being Defensive Rookie of the Year for the Browns. Years ago, the Browns drafter another workout warrior named Mike Junkin #5 overall. They said he played like a mad dog in a meat market. Traded up to get him. He broke his wrist and was never really heard from again. He's considered one of the all time Browns busts (back when they were actually good).

For example, NFL teams really frown on college LBers and OTs with short arms. They can get by in college but cannot in the NFL.
 
Sheriff Coffee said:
One would think but the NFL gets caught up in measurables. They'll often value a workout warrior who tests off the charts. Often they think the kid was misused or poorly coached. Carson Schwesinger from UCLA is a good example last year. Kid was a walkon at UCLA and played for a poorly coached team. At 6-2 and 242, his measurables were really good. He was picked 33 overall and ended up being Defensive Rookie of the Year for the Browns. Years ago, the Browns drafter another workout warrior named Mike Junkin #5 overall. They said he played like a mad dog in a meat market. Traded up to get him. He broke his wrist and was never really heard from again. He's considered one of the all time Browns busts (back when they were actually good).

For example, NFL teams really frown on college LBers and OTs with short arms. They can get by in college but cannot in the NFL.
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Yep. Players move up considerably every combine because of some measurable. Speed. Power. Vertical height.

Others move down like the one this year with short arms. Or slower than expected.

Coaches always think they can coach them up. Better PT. Better nutrition. Sports psychologists.

Sometimes they are right. Sometimes they aren’t. 🤷🏽‍♀️
 
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