I'd actually like to see Terry Smith run the table and get the job
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We would all love that but I think it's a pipe dream. For the rest of the year we're without Allar & Rojas and there's dissension in the ranks. Next year we lose all of the star players from the 6th ranked class of 2022 and recruits from the 15th ranked classes that followed are jumping ship.
PSU is a dumpster fire right now and it will require a total rebuild. That's why I'd be surprised if we got a guy like Urban Myer. I think he would want to win quickly and wouldn't have the patience to spend 3 years rebuilding.
I don't know that I agree that it's a dumpster fire yet. 2012-13 was a real dumpster fire, and we managed 8-4 both years and got much of the talent that led to 2016. There's still a lot of talent on the roster. Whether they will pull together or not with the CFP now lost, who knows? But I think Terry will be smart enough to get Kaytron the ball since he needs to win now. That alone makes our OL better. I'm not sure Grunk is that much of a step back over what Drew's shown most of this season. He might even be a better fit for Kotelnicki's offense. Losing Rojas hurts, but maybe we play some of the young guys. I think the assistants will be motivated to show that it was Franklin and not them. If we give a listless performance this weekend, then maybe you're right.
TheNewBoss
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Are the actual reports of dissension in the racks or is it speculation? I assume there is dissension but is there any reliable source report such?
There's always finger pointing when a team starts losing. AJ Harris was benched last week so I'm pretty sure he wasn't happy. Singleton might not be happy because Franklin had his back in spite of poor performance. I imagine that a lot of Franklin loyalists are angry.
Yes, several analysts reported it. There was locker room factions over the offense, and the lack of discipline.
NittanyLion99
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Cignetti built IU in one year with the portal. Gone are the days of rebuilding through multi-year recruiting cycles. A guy like Meyer would be able to fill holes quickly, wherever he went.
Cignetti loaded up with players from James Madison who didn't require a lot of NIL. I think that would be difficult to duplicate.
I think a new coach would need an extra $5-$10 million above and beyond existing NIL $$$ in order to compete immediately. That money would have to come from donors.
NittanyLion99
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Maybe, but the players that leave are currently getting NIL that would go back in the pot. The NCAA is now 100% free agency with no salary cap. That's true for every team, every year. Meyer would be a draw and there seems to be plenty of money.
Yes and no. The portal is a great equalizer. If you combine money with someone Like Meyer, who knows? Although I don’t think Meyer is interested.
Of course there's a salary cap. Revenue sharing is limited to $20.5 million and NIL money is limited to what private donors contribute.
I agree that Meyer would be a draw but I don't agree that it's as simple as buying a team from the portal.
RickinDayton
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I thought Terry Smith said A.J.Harris was benched because of an injury?
Hugh Laurie
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Even if he were to run the table, I'm not sure Terry Smith is the guy to take the helm. Nothing against Terry but he's been on the staff for 11 years and one has to wonder why he hasn't had any HC offers and if he has, why he hasn't jumped on one. Some guys like to be in the trenches getting dirty and others like to be the polished leader leading from the front and being the face of the program. I think Terry is the former and not the latter and there is nothing wrong with that.
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NittanyLion99
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Sorry, but there is no salary cap. Your statement would be like saying there was a salary cap in the NFL before there was a salary cap because it was limited by what the owners could pay. Hell, there isn't even a luxury tax like MLB. If Bama boosters want to spend $200M, they can. There is no rule against it.
In a world where dreams came true, my choice would be Urban Meyer. The buzz factor would be off the charts. Recruiting and the portal market would be instantly energized. The program, which is now in total disarray, would be reborn overnight.
Unfortunately, this is Fantasy Land because I can't see it happening.
An up-and-coming coordinator somewhere is just not big enough for the job at hand, in my view.
Matt Rhule excites me not at all but he'll obviously be in the mix.
And then there's guys like recent coaching superstar Cignetti and also Eliah Drinkwitz who's had a lot of success at Missouri. It's hard to see Cignetti leaving Indiana for the situation he'd be facing at Penn State. Drinkwitz...maybe.
Other possibilities in the same general vein: Matt Campbell (Iowa State), Manny Diaz (Duke), and Brent Key (Georgia Tech).
Key in particular intrigues me. He was one of the top OL coaches in the country at Alabama before leaving for the head job at Tech and turning that program around. In the process, he compiled a track record of actually winning "big games."
In the end, I think we need somebody who immediately moves the proverbial needle because as things stand, we've got some recruits decommitting and an aura of dissension and chaos surrounding the program. We need a guy whose name and record by themselves turn that around.
Unfortunately, this is Fantasy Land because I can't see it happening.
An up-and-coming coordinator somewhere is just not big enough for the job at hand, in my view.
Matt Rhule excites me not at all but he'll obviously be in the mix.
And then there's guys like recent coaching superstar Cignetti and also Eliah Drinkwitz who's had a lot of success at Missouri. It's hard to see Cignetti leaving Indiana for the situation he'd be facing at Penn State. Drinkwitz...maybe.
Other possibilities in the same general vein: Matt Campbell (Iowa State), Manny Diaz (Duke), and Brent Key (Georgia Tech).
Key in particular intrigues me. He was one of the top OL coaches in the country at Alabama before leaving for the head job at Tech and turning that program around. In the process, he compiled a track record of actually winning "big games."
In the end, I think we need somebody who immediately moves the proverbial needle because as things stand, we've got some recruits decommitting and an aura of dissension and chaos surrounding the program. We need a guy whose name and record by themselves turn that around.
I think we'll learn a lot Saturday night about what was really going on. On the field, at least.
Pennstate_one
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I hope so. I’ve heard for years about how much say Franklin really has in the play-calling. He said his coordinators were supposed to be the “head coaches” of their respective sides, but I’m not so sure.
He's a position coach, no less. They don't usually get offers unless its to be a coordinator. Maybe he never wanted to leave. Maybe Franklin didn't give him a shot. Or maybe he only wanted one job and it wasn't open. But if I recall, l he was a pretty good high school coach in the WPIAL. He knows the game, has run a team before, played for Joe, and he can recruit. He'd have to be given consideration if he got this team to play to potential after Franklin tanked it. I might take him over Rhule if that happened, unless Rhule's bringing his QB east with him.
No way I believe he didn't have a hand in play-calling.