Is PSU BB a Pat Kraft Issue?

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Frank Lee

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Back to Kraft again. If PSU's basketball team can't attract the players, then it's a money thing. Yea, it's State College and all, but how much does a 4* DI point guard cost, as well as 4*s at the #2 and #4 postions? Then backfill with Lafayette and Sienna guys who can hit threes.
 
Frank Lee said:
Back to Kraft again. If PSU's basketball team can't attract the players, then it's a money thing. Yea, it's State College and all, but how much does a 4* DI point guard cost, as well as 4*s at the #2 and #4 postions? Then backfill with Lafayette and Sienna guys who can hit threes.
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I coach high school basketball and to get the really good high school players, the top 50 guys, they cost more than a good D1 quarterback. If mingos brother comes, this team will be real good next year. But it’s highly unlikely, he’ll cost 2.5 million at minimum. But if he comes they will get other portal players who want to play with them
 
Bison13 said:
I coach high school basketball and to get the really good high school players, the top 50 guys, they cost more than a good D1 quarterback. If mingos brother comes, this team will be real good next year. But it’s highly unlikely, he’ll cost 2.5 million at minimum. But if he comes they will get other portal players who want to play with them
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Can't we get 27 year olds from Europe?

LdN
 
In looking at the personalities and determination of both Coach Cael and CMC, I can see that successful coaches have an understanding that confidence and aggressiveness in getting big donors and talented players ASAP is vital. It's a big league attitude. Both MBB and WBB coaches either don't have this inate ability and/or are instructed to stay within guard rails. IMHO.
 
Bison13 said:
I coach high school basketball and to get the really good high school players, the top 50 guys, they cost more than a good D1 quarterback. If mingos brother comes, this team will be real good next year. But it’s highly unlikely, he’ll cost 2.5 million at minimum. But if he comes they will get other portal players who want to play with them
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Can't we go all in to get Mingo 2? Ask the big money guys, if he is the difference to get us going and at least get to the Dance then it is a good ROI.
 
ryoder1 said:
Can't we go all in to get Mingo 2? Ask the big money guys, if he is the difference to get us going and at least get to the Dance then it is a good ROI.
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I'd love to see it but not sure if that is what coach is willing to do. You only lose Reed and then probably 1 or 2 portal so you should be able to focus on just Mingo.
 
Frank Lee said:
Back to Kraft again. If PSU's basketball team can't attract the players, then it's a money thing. Yea, it's State College and all, but how much does a 4* DI point guard cost, as well as 4*s at the #2 and #4 postions? Then backfill with Lafayette and Sienna guys who can hit threes.
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It literally costs a bloody fortune. Why we waited last year until revenue sharing existed. We didn't have the money for the portal, so we went to Europe. PSU has 2 problems. No basketball culture, and no major donor like Wrestling and Hockey. Also, a horrible reputation for coaches coming here.
 
Frank Lee said:
In looking at the personalities and determination of both Coach Cael and CMC, I can see that successful coaches have an understanding that confidence and aggressiveness in getting big donors and talented players ASAP is vital. It's a big league attitude. Both MBB and WBB coaches either don't have this inate ability and/or are instructed to stay within guard rails. IMHO.
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Rhoades is not getting what he was promised from Kraft. WBB will be gone after this season for sure. Rhoades is too expensive to buy out.
 
What is the budget for buying a mid-tier Big10 basketball roster, anyway? Isn't there some 17-year-old point guard wiz somewhere on a Brooklyn playground who would gladly take $1.5m? Or how about a 3-pt specialist in Ankara, Turkey who would jump at $500k for a season in the States? Or does everyone want $3m-$5m?
 
Frank Lee said:
What is the budget for buying a mid-tier Big10 basketball roster, anyway? Isn't there some 17-year-old point guard wiz somewhere on a Brooklyn playground who would gladly take $1.5m? Or how about a 3-pt specialist in Ankara, Turkey who would jump at $500k for a season in the States? Or does everyone want $3m-$5m?
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A 1 and done type like Dybantsa at BYU is 3 million plus. Mingos brother will be in that range. Not all of these recruits are caught up in getting the big paycheck, look at some of the guys on Purdue. Braden Smith isn’t getting a ton of money, but he’s really good. The problem is finding those good white players who know that their future is not in the NBA and they are going to stay for four years and get their degree before trying to play overseas or get a real job.
 
Bison13 said:
A 1 and done type like Dybantsa at BYU is 3 million plus. Mingos brother will be in that range. Not all of these recruits are caught up in getting the big paycheck, look at some of the guys on Purdue. Braden Smith isn’t getting a ton of money, but he’s really good. The problem is finding those good white players who know that their future is not in the NBA and they are going to stay for four years and get their degree before trying to play overseas or get a real job.
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How do Wisconsin and Iowa do it? Where did the Iowa coach come from because he is doing a very good job, in my opinion? I know it was a non Power 4 school.

They get these guys who can shoot lights out. Wisconsin takes 50% of their shots behind the 3 line and make 11 or 12 a game. We probably won't even make seven 3s in any B10 game this season much less average 11 or 12 for the entire season.
 
ryoder1 said:
How do Wisconsin and Iowa do it? Where did the Iowa coach come from because he is doing a very good job, in my opinion? I know it was a non Power 4 school.

They get these guys who can shoot lights out. Wisconsin takes 50% of their shots behind the 3 line and make 11 or 12 a game. We probably won't even make seven 3s in any B10 game this season much less average 11 or 12 for the entire season.
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They aren’t recruiting big city kids. They know what they want, big country kids who can shoot. A couple guards with a bit of shake and not afraid of pressure. They know they will never be the most athletic but can be the most efficient and beat teams with x/o
 
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PSU's D is bad.
If the talent is not there, then rally around defensive play. Mix things up with different looks. Zone to man to zone, switching off, etc. Cause confusion and get the other team to play out of synch.
 
Frank Lee said:
PSU's D is bad.
If the talent is not there, then rally around defensive play. Mix things up with different looks. Zone to man to zone, switching off, etc. Cause confusion and get the other team to play out of synch.
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Right now, they only have seven players who I would say are competent players who would make another power five roster where they would get a few minutes a game. Out of those 7, three of them are terrible defensive players.

Dilione is below average as a defender, Rice is bad as a defender and Stewart is possibly one of the worst offenders in the NCAA.
 
Rhoades: "After seeing the type of player and player combinations needed to win in this conference, I am determined to more than ever to build a team that competes in this conference."

Kraft: "Let me see the plan, where you'll be recruiting, and the budget you are looking at. And explain to me again why you're the person to pull it off. Thanks."
 
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