LionDeNittany
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Is from being elite
Today's games make me realize just how far Penn State...
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LionDeNittany
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We don't have the horses. Which is the opposite of what we were sold.
Indiana just absolutely destroyed UCLA.
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LionDeNittany
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It goes back to before Kotelnicki. Back to Hackenberg
Wesauking Lion
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Should we really be surprised. Recruiting was 12-15.... almost every year. Not top 5 or 10.
Limited player development, no game plan or game day coaching... and we end up where we are... balls across the nose
Limited player development, no game plan or game day coaching... and we end up where we are... balls across the nose
LionDeNittany
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12-15 puts us ahead of 92% of teams.
Certainly shouldn't be struggling against NW
The issue isn't recruiting freshman. Or portal, for that matter.
The program was the problem.
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Sheriff Coffee
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Just finished watching Alabama. They're down 22-14 in the 4th quarter on the road, and they leave nothing to chance. They took the game over like great teams do. I'd love to have a coach like DeBoer.
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I was bet impressed with Indiana. Shows the future of college football is through the portal, not recruiting high schools.
We may be looking at the power five being AAA. MAC is AA. Etcetera.
We may be looking at the power five being AAA. MAC is AA. Etcetera.
I think there's still something to be said for Franklin's preferred approach to recruiting. In general, top schools should be able to recruit enough top high school players to have a good nucleus while using the portal and NIL to fill in the gaps or quickly fix areas of obvious weakness. I don't think most coaches are as good at finding and evaluating overlooked talent as Curt Cignetti.
Only if you consider teams like Kent State and Akron to be our competitors.
It certainly puts us ahead of teams like UCLA, Northwestern and Iowa. Those losses are a function of coaching and I'm not just talking about Xs and Os.
I wonder how good Cignetti really is. He caught lightning in a bottle with his James Madison transfers but what's the likelihood he can repeat what he did?
At this point I'd settle for just "good" and we appear to be far from that too.
In other news, gotta feel good for Vandy...hung tough to beat Missouri and stay unbeaten...first time in the top-10 since 1947.
Gotta feel bad for Beau though...out for the season. Honestly, he hadn't played all that well before the injury in the 3rd quarter.
LSU got humiliated in their own stadium and looked like they quit on the field during the 2nd half. It's looking more and more like they're going to pull the plug on Brian Kelly. He's walking around on the sideline chewing out assistants and his own quarterback...a pathetic display. Texas A&M is the real deal.
Ole Miss keeps playoff hopes alive with a tough win on the road at Oklahoma. Harrison Wallace had a fairly productive day at WR...caught 5 balls. Another receiver whose talent was underdeveloped and underexploited at Penn State so he goes to a tough league and plays well. KLS did the same thing. Penn State: the program where wide receivers go to die.
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It also puts us behind the top 10 teams which seem to consistently beat us for the last 10 years as evidenced by our record in top 10 games. I would also add crappy game day decisions, preparation, coaching, high school game plans, and stupid play calling in crucial times.
Other than that... we have them right where we want them.
Recruiting rankings:
2023 - AL, GA, TX, OSU, LSU
2024 - GA, AL, OR, MIA, OSU
2025 - TX, GA, AL, OSU, OR
I'd say that recruiting is most important. Of course you have to be able to keep the kids you recruit and fill in the weaknesses in the portal.
Indiana has been great but I'm skeptical that they'll be able to keep it up. I'm pretty sure that teams will be better off with 4* & 5* recruits than they will be by filling their rosters with 2* players from the Sun Belt conference.
The Barbour and BoT experiment failed.