RickinDayton
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The majority of us knew he wasn't coming to PSU.
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Exactly, Cignetti is gone, although I never thought he was a viable option, the ND coach is a pipe dream as is the Alabama coach. So your looking at Ruhl, Drink, or Campbell as far as established power four coaches. I would rather consider one of the up and comers who are great recruiters.
The buyout for a new coach is typically not that much. Franklin's was $1 million but maybe it is a lot more for some of these guys. Nevertheless, a $70 million price for all the buyouts is grossly overstated. Franklin only gets the difference in his new salary and his PSU salary.
Dailybuck777
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You are right. If Franklin takes a new job, he only gets the difference between the buyout number and his new salary. If he doesn't get a job he entitled to he is entitled to the full 50 million, that I believe would bbepaid out at 8 million a year over time. He has high paid assistants, and Penn State may have to buy out the new coach who will be coming. The 70 million figure is a reasonable amount certain situations. Meyer did mention that he was close to Paterno and that is what people he knows at PSU have been telling him.
Kid Nickels
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I'm telling ya, they're watching to see how Rhule does over the next several weeks before making the official offer. Nebraska plays at Minnesota tonight and is more than a touchdown favorite. If Minnesota wins, that won't shine a positive light on Rhule.
If he can put together a string of wins, including one in Happy Valley, I think they'll make the offer. Kraft loves him but knows he has to be able to convince boosters and the fan base.
If he can put together a string of wins, including one in Happy Valley, I think they'll make the offer. Kraft loves him but knows he has to be able to convince boosters and the fan base.
So, now the Husker players have incentive to lose. Complicated stuff.
This might have been covered earlier, but the older donor contingent want Rhule as a bridge to the past. There may be good and bad things about that. The good is maybe getting a team of character and toughness. And maybe it's a way, at least for me, to fight back against the Corbetts, Surmas, Peetz, Fraziers, and the rest who caved and didn't fight. Kind of a FU, we're taking the program back. Kraft, although an "outsider", looks like a guy who could help with this. The bad with Rhule is that he may be just a turn-around specialist, but based on his background vs. Franklin's, he understands tough, hard-nosed football and probably knows that inserting a semi-mobile QB into an RPO-type of offense, and not recruiting exceptional wide receivers, is really dumb. I'm sure that he's a disciplinarian, as well. Meyer and Saban have the same qualities for those who think Rhule is unproven.
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Former Penn State football player suing over 'campaign of hazing'
A former Penn State football player alleged a campaign of hazing in a new lawsuit, including threats that referenced Jerry Sandusky.
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The big boosters at Penn State wanted Franklin out. They know the financial implications and pulled the trigger. They are playing the odds thinking Franklin will get another job. He will even if it is not until 2027 after he spends a season with ESPN and gets paid probably a couple million or even more. That alone starts eating away at the buyout.
I think Rhule would be great in instilling toughness and more physicality. My main concern is if he can attract and develop the best quarterbacks and have an elite passing game (including excellent WRs). Joe Brady would be able to do this but I don't know if Joe Brady could bring a tough, physical culture.This might have been covered earlier, but the older donor contingent want Rhule as a bridge to the past. There may be good and bad things about that. The good is maybe getting a team of character and toughness. And maybe it's a way, at least for me, to fight back against the Corbetts, Surmas, Peetz, Fraziers, and the rest who caved and didn't fight. Kind of a FU, we're taking the program back. Kraft, although an "outsider", looks like a guy who could help with this. The bad with Rhule is that he may be just a turn-around specialist, but based on his background vs. Franklin's, he understands tough, hard-nosed football and probably knows that inserting a semi-mobile QB into an RPO-type of offense, and not recruiting exceptional wide receivers, is really dumb. I'm sure that he's a disciplinarian, as well. Meyer and Saban have the same qualities for those who think Rhule is unproven.
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Former Penn State football player suing over 'campaign of hazing'
A former Penn State football player alleged a campaign of hazing in a new lawsuit, including threats that referenced Jerry Sandusky.
If Matt is not a micro-manager and he's aware of what a natty requires, then he hires a Chip Kelly as OC while sitting down with Knowles to get clarity on defensive philosophy. And that particular combo has a track record.
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If Rhule, then Kraft should gather him, Saban, and Meyer at a place like Pebble Beach where strategies about organization, hires, and rosters can be thrown about. There's nothing binding, but some good brains to pick.If Matt is not a micro-manager and he's aware of what a natty requires, then he hires a Chip Kelly as OC while sitting down with Knowles to get clarity on defensive philosophy. And that particular combo has a track record.
In planning ahead, is there anything objectionable with Dana Holgorsen, the UNL OC? He should be learning Big10 nuances right now.
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I'd imagine that Rhule knows what a natty takes if we fans think we do. We haven't seen him do it yet. Rhule's no worse than Franklin. The question is whether he's any better. His record doesn't suggest it, but he's been in rebuild mode most of the time he's been playing Top 25 teams, so it's hard to say. Nebraska's line play against Michigan was not up to the level that it will need to be to beat the teams we need to beat to win a natty. Is that a talent issue, strength training, or philosophy?If Matt is not a micro-manager and he's aware of what a natty requires, then he hires a Chip Kelly as OC while sitting down with Knowles to get clarity on defensive philosophy. And that particular combo has a track record.
Rhule is only in his third year. A decent record, but still has budget, location, and brand issues to work through. But correct. He knows what is required. To me, Franklin was the culprit at Penn State. As mentioned before, not an Xs & Os guy, not a disciplinarian, poor fit of QBs to the style, unfixed WR room, etc. etc. Ryan Day, while a nice guy, was never considered an elite coach, so if Rhule can mimic OSU in the level of talent and coordinator talent, then he'll be fine. An organization that sees what talent is out there and how to go after it is key. This is where Kraft and some paid consultants (e.g. Saban, Meyer) can get to work while Rhule is dealing with the learning curve.
marylovesthelions
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Matt Rhule makes 8.5 million and gets a 1+ million raise every year plus bonuses if he wins the B1G, etc.
RickinDayton
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Hard no to Holgerson.
RickinDayton
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I plan on Watching Nebraska vs Minny tonight.
Cignetti's confident. Maybe to the point of overkill. I like his style.
But I feel like people (Indiana administrators) are making too much of the Oregon win. We really don't yet know how good Oregon is this year. They appear to be a playoff team, but it's early. It would be funny if Oregon isn't as good as we thought, and Cignetti's getting nearly $100 million mainly for a win over a so-so team.
But I feel like people (Indiana administrators) are making too much of the Oregon win. We really don't yet know how good Oregon is this year. They appear to be a playoff team, but it's early. It would be funny if Oregon isn't as good as we thought, and Cignetti's getting nearly $100 million mainly for a win over a so-so team.